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Post by Atoz 77 on Mar 28, 2009 8:42:25 GMT -6
"The Neutral Zone" -- This was a fascinating episode to me, one of my favorites because it concerns three people from the twentieth century who were stored in cryogenic suspension. At one time or another, I expect every Trekkie was probably fantasized about being suddenly transported to the 24th century, and in this case, we got to vicariously see what it would be like, in the persons of Clare Raymond, Ralph Offenhouse, and L. Q. "Sonny" Clemens. Oh, and Romulans were in it, too.
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Post by andrewlee on Mar 28, 2009 12:39:53 GMT -6
I also really like this episode!! I was a bit disappointed with Captain Picard when he remarked to Dr Crusher about the 3 people from the 20th century already being dead. We should start a new thread about if you were to find yourself somewhere in the Star Trek Universe, where and where not would you want to be and why? What does everyone think?
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Post by Atoz 77 on Mar 30, 2009 7:48:52 GMT -6
That bothered me, too. Probably just a question of semantics. After all, if Dr. Crusher could bring them back to life, they aren't really "dead" in the accepted sense, are they? And if she can revive them, isn't her obligation as a doctor to do it?
Plus, presumably Data scanned the frozen bodies with his tricorder, and if they had been dead, he most likely would have left them there.
I'm not sure about your other question, though.
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Post by andrewlee on Mar 30, 2009 14:36:44 GMT -6
Atoz. You have a very good point about the ethics of being dead vs alive or relivable concerning the 3 people found on that old derelict! I don't even have an answer to my other question! I was wondering if any one else did!
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Post by Spock on Mar 30, 2009 21:59:03 GMT -6
it was an interesting episode. I dont believe the prime directive stands in the way of reviving them if they can. Mission - to seek out new life, help those in need etc. Reviving 'Humans' isn't unethical, regardless of what time they came front. Their familes sought out a way to make sure they don't die, and reviving them was the best choice.
To answer your question andrew, where would I want to be? probably exactly where they were found. On some derelict ship in the middle of space found by humans. It would be a fantastic experience waking up and looking at all their technology. Where not? well probably not want to wake up in the middle of an assimilation XD
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Post by Luke on Apr 1, 2009 10:45:20 GMT -6
if that pod was in orbit around Earth and just drifted out to where they found it doesnt that imply that the nuetral zone is pretty close to earth?
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Post by andrewlee on Apr 1, 2009 14:40:29 GMT -6
Admiral Spock. I liked what you had to say about the prime directive concerning those 3 people! It also would be a lot better to be in a situation like those 3 people finding themselves more than 3 and a 1/2 centuries in the future where they were in spite of the Romulans as apposed to waking up to "We are the Borg. You will be assimilated!" or waking up in an Orion slave market up for sale! As far as the old derelict being near the neutral zone, there could be many answers to this and it doesn't mean earth is very close to the neutral zone.
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Post by Atoz 77 on Apr 3, 2009 7:56:36 GMT -6
Of course I would want to be in a starship like the Enterprise, but realistically I'd be unlikely to pass the entrance exams (considering what we saw in "Coming of Age"). But then, just to be a bartender or a barber on the Enterprise would be amazing.
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Post by Atoz 77 on Apr 3, 2009 8:01:31 GMT -6
if that pod was in orbit around Earth and just drifted out to where they found it doesnt that imply that the nuetral zone is pretty close to earth? That's a good point, and there are contradictory lines of evidence there. In "First Contact", the Enterprise was patrolling the Neutral Zone when the Borg attacked Earth, and they managed to return to Earth while the battle was still going on. On the other hand, as Andrew points out, there could be other explanations for how the pod ended up far away from Earth.
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Post by Luke on Apr 8, 2009 10:33:50 GMT -6
In Balance of Terror we were told about the war between Romulas and EArth a hundred years ago. That also suggests that the two planets are fairly close together at least to me.
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Post by andrewlee on Apr 8, 2009 13:11:24 GMT -6
Atoz, Lucius.... or should I call you Luke? Does any of you have any ideas on how many light years the Romulan Neutral Zone is from Earth? I agree that it is implied that it is some what close!
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Post by Atoz 77 on Apr 10, 2009 7:55:39 GMT -6
I don't recall them ever giving distances in light-years between one planet or another. They wanted to keep it sort of vague -- which is a good idea, otherwise people like us would be obsessively calculating warp speeds and not paying attention to the stories!
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Post by shakfar on Apr 12, 2009 15:15:38 GMT -6
i remember one episode wher they used light years in enterprise
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Post by Atoz 77 on Apr 13, 2009 7:58:40 GMT -6
Yes, they used light-years and parsecs as measures of distance, but they rarely if ever came right out and stated exactly how far one planet is from another.
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Post by andrewlee on Apr 13, 2009 13:34:22 GMT -6
Atoz. I have noticed this to about it not being mentioned concerning the distance to planets/places in light years very much. We both would calculate for errors/accuracy in what distance and speed they were going. I wish they would be more accurate!!!!!
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