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Post by andrewlee on Aug 16, 2008 10:47:06 GMT -6
Atoz. I am going to check this one out. I sounds very good!!
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Post by TaxmaN on Aug 17, 2008 6:07:34 GMT -6
Yeah I agree it is one of the best new Doctor Who episodes, I've been watching a lot of the Tom Baker stories, he is the best Doctor and Christopher Ecclestone was very good as well, oh and my Doctor lol
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Post by LeopardessGirl on Aug 18, 2008 16:29:58 GMT -6
I Might Just Do That My Self!
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Post by Atoz 77 on Dec 12, 2008 8:19:15 GMT -6
All in all, I have to agree with the Vulcan Science Academy that, as a practical technology, time travel is illogical. This isn't to deny that it doesn't sometimes happen, but if we imagine a civilization that could travel in time as easily as we travel through space, we should be meeting these people everywhere, every time we turn around. Since we aren't, logically time travel must not be a practical technology in the future.
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Post by gammaquadrant on Jan 10, 2009 12:13:22 GMT -6
Personally, I no longer like time travel in any medium. It was cool at first, but now it hurts stories and leads to massive plot holes. Unless firm rules are established, then it makes no sense. For example, time travel has ruined a lot (not all) of the tv show, Heroes. Which I used to love. Now it makes no sense. It has its good moments in Trek, but sometimes it is flat out stupid. The 29th century Federation was one of the worst ideas to ever come out of Voyager. There was nothing futuristic looking about it. It looked like it was 24th century (and even the 24th century is beginning to look outdated). To add onto that, if this group of Starfleet (?) officers in the 29th century are monitoring "time", then why have they done nothing all those times when time was altered by some foe seeking to hurt Earth or a simple screw up? Is it because our heroes from the show always fix the mistake that they do nothing? Lazy officers.
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Post by Atoz 77 on Jan 12, 2009 9:30:48 GMT -6
Exactly my feeling. When it's used too often (as they did in Enterprise), it really starts to feel ridiculous.
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Post by tracytrek on May 5, 2015 21:14:53 GMT -6
The only Next Generation stories I can think of in which time travel played a part are "Matter of Record", "Captain's Holiday" (both of which involved meeting travelers from the future), "Cause and Effect" (in which the Enterprise was caught in a time loop), "Timescape" (in which Enterprise was frozen in time), "Yesterday's Enterprise" and the two-part episode "Time's Arrow" (the only one in which they actually travelled into the past). Can you think of any others? Wasn't there one called Time Squared, where they find a shuttle and another Picard from a little bit in the future
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Post by Atoz 77 on May 6, 2015 7:46:36 GMT -6
Yes, that's another one. I think the Enterprise was swallowed by some gigantic vortex or something in that one, wasn't it? And the shuttlecraft with Picard was thrown back in time a few hours. The conflict came from Picard trying to second guess himself, trying not to make the same mistakes the "other" Picard did. And did you notice how unnerved Picard was? "That's not me! That can't be me!"
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Post by tracytrek on Jun 19, 2015 10:21:41 GMT -6
What I can't fathom is how Ellison ever dreamed Roddenberry would have included a character who was a drug dealer on his starship! I mean, that seems like a reasonable change to make. I don't understand why he got so bent out of shape. But then, I guess I'd have to read his book to find out. From what I've read about this, I think Ellison was a real jerk about it. Roddenberry was probably constrained by the network as to what stories he could tell.I also read (I don't recall when or where) that Ellison won an award for his original script and just had to make a comment that it was his original, not the aired version that was honored. That in itself wouldn't be so bad, but it was the way he said it.
For some reason, when I made this post, it would not come down and form a new paragraph. Although I was able to highlight it blue to distinguish it from yours.
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Post by Atoz 77 on Jun 23, 2015 7:51:17 GMT -6
From what I've read about this, I think Ellison was a real jerk about it. Roddenberry was probably constrained by the network as to what stories he could tell.I also read (I don't recall when or where) that Ellison won an award for his original script and just had to make a comment that it was his original, not the aired version that was honored. That in itself wouldn't be so bad, but it was the way he said it Yes, his story did win the Hugo award for that year. I know that when James Blish wrote the adaptation for it, he said that Ellison's original was a thing of beauty. I personally don't understand why he got so bent out of shape about it myself. But then, it's Harlan Ellison. By the way, if you're wondering who won Hugo awards for various years, you can check here. www.thehugoawards.org/hugo-history/
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