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Post by Atoz 77 on Nov 21, 2008 9:15:09 GMT -6
Yes it did, but if you remember he was already sort of a control freak from the beginning.
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Post by data75 on Dec 19, 2008 6:53:24 GMT -6
I'm not so sure if he's good but definitely he is evil
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Post by Atoz 77 on Dec 19, 2008 8:32:08 GMT -6
Why do you say he's evil? Give me an example.
(I'm not necessarily disputing what you say, just encouraging conversation.)
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Post by kobyashimaru on Jan 7, 2009 14:57:32 GMT -6
Q is a great character despite his initial appearance with the threat of eliminating humanity. He plays games to amuse himself (cf. Q attempting suicide). My favorite Q episodes are where he is mortal (appearing naked and immediately saying "Red Alert" with his amused smile) and Tapestry where his best line is "Welcome to the after life Jean-Luc -- You're Dead! Overall he is not evil by our standards except for where he introduced them to the Borg (although an episode of Enterprise indicates their arrival on Earth 200 years prior).
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Post by Atoz 77 on Jan 9, 2009 8:31:06 GMT -6
Yes, the episode where Q was ejected from the Continuum and had to cope with being mortal was a particularly good one.
The Enterprise episode you're talking about is the result of another time travel paradox. Yes, the Borg were on the other side of the galaxy and didn't even know Earth existed until Q "introduced" us. But if you remember the movie "First Contact", the Borg used time-travel technology to send a capsule back to the 21st century. This capsule was subsequently destroyed by the Enterprise, and those few corpses apparently survived by being frozen in ice the moment they crashed.
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Post by gammaquadrant on Jan 10, 2009 12:00:42 GMT -6
Q is definitly good. Anytime he did something, there was a greater good behind his actions. Even if it appeared to be evil. Some say him bringing the ENT-D to the Borg was "evil". No it wasn't. Because of that, he prepared Humanity for the Borg threat. Tapestry was a wonderful episode that showed he does have a soft spot. He showed Picard what his life would have been had he not made the choices he made. Or the episode where he made Riker a Q. He showed that they didn't need his powers. In "All Good Things..." he teaches Picard and as an extension mankind that a grade future awaited them, but not one of mapping stars but understanding the human spirit and growth.
Some episodes he didn't teach lessons, like the one where he became Human, the DS9 episode, or when he was on VOY. Although influential things occured in those episodes.
Did he do evil things? Somewhat, yes. But I think that is a result of his omnipotence. Q doesn't have the compassion that non-omnipotent beings have towards each other, because life and death, love and pain, are meaningless to him. He has control over everything.
He genuinly seems to care that Humanity evolves and reaches a high place in the universe.
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Post by Atoz 77 on Jan 12, 2009 9:20:22 GMT -6
That's an interesting way of looking at it. I'm not sure I agree that he had a benign purpose in mind when he sent the Enterprise to encounter the Borg, I do agree that he wasn't what I would call "evil", either. If he had really wanted to hurt people for pleasure, he could easily have come up with much more inventive ways of doing that.
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Post by sphonzie on Jan 24, 2009 18:23:59 GMT -6
Well early on I thought they/he was evil, but later on they kinda balance it out ya know?
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Post by qgirl on Apr 12, 2009 17:06:36 GMT -6
It's hard to tell what his true intentions are sometimes, but I don't think he's good or evil. His actions cancel themselves out; he can do something bad to humans and turn around and do something good. I think that all Q are kind of selfish and immature, and that one way that Q grew was by interacting with humans. In this growth, I think he came to realize that sometimes his actions were evil from the human's POV.
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Post by shakfar on Apr 12, 2009 17:09:07 GMT -6
which series is q on anyway?
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Post by qgirl on Apr 12, 2009 17:12:26 GMT -6
He was mainly on TNG, but he appeared a couple times in Voyager and once on Deep Space Nine.
There was also a Q in TOS, Trelane.
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Post by shakfar on Apr 12, 2009 17:15:45 GMT -6
hmmm...well ive never seen a trek episode with him in it...(or so that i remember)
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Post by Atoz 77 on Apr 13, 2009 7:57:20 GMT -6
Really? Q was in the premiere episode, "Encounter at Farpoint", and in the final episode, "All Good Things...", plus about half a dozen episodes in between (some good, some bad).
Qgirl -- There's enormous room for disagreement about whether Trelane could really be considered a Q, since he needed that mirror machine to perform some of his stunts for him. Plus I didn't get the impression from Q that there were such things as "young" Qs.
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Post by mgomez on Apr 26, 2009 12:39:18 GMT -6
I thought that I had already posted on this forum ::shrugs::
I think that Q is both. Yes he is the "God" of the Star Trek galaxy (as he thinks), but I think that he is both, he loves to play around- which we all have seen that, but on the other side, he does things that are good, but may or may not expect anything in return. Yes, he was harsh, but that is probably the way he lived.
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Post by Atoz 77 on Apr 27, 2009 8:13:56 GMT -6
I thought that I had already posted on this forum ::shrugs:: Well, we often have topics which overlap, because someone will not see a topic that's far down at the bottom of the page and start a new one on almost the same thing.
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