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Post by Atoz 77 on Nov 7, 2008 8:21:07 GMT -6
I saw the episode "Acquisition" night before last, and one thing really bothers me. The Ferengi introduced a gas bomb into the engineering compartment, which knocked out everybody in the ship. I'm not saying they would have anticipated being gassed like that, but wouldn't you expect the life support system to monitor the atmosphere and seal off the sections of the ship if it detected fumes or loss of oxygen or anything out of the ordinary? Did I miss some kind of explanation for this?
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Post by Luke on Nov 12, 2008 9:39:57 GMT -6
I thought the FErengi came off as sort of stupid. I would think if they are a technology advanced species, they wouldnt run around scooping up anything that was nailed down into their little duffle bags, woudd you? I guess it was suppoesed to be a semi-comedy thing.
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Post by Atoz 77 on Nov 14, 2008 8:39:22 GMT -6
I agree, Luke. I would think any race capable of creating starships would be technically advance enough to recognize things like MRI machines. These guys acted like idiots, but I suppose there are idiots in every culture.
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Post by andrewlee on Nov 21, 2008 19:10:37 GMT -6
I thought it was really funny when one of the Ferengi, I beleive the one played by "Clint Howard" , Tried to communicate with captain Archer's dog with a universle translator........
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Post by gammaquadrant on Jan 10, 2009 11:43:57 GMT -6
Good question, OP.
Perhaps there was something in the gas itself that couldn't be filtered/detected? Not sure.
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Post by Atoz 77 on Jan 12, 2009 9:14:43 GMT -6
That's a reasonable conjecture. But surely the life signs monitors would have noticed that people were falling unconscious and tried to seal off those decks, even if it couldn't detect what was responsible.
I agree that it certainly is logical that the Ferengi took all this into account when they designed their little trojan horse to begin with.
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Post by andrewlee on Jan 20, 2009 21:07:51 GMT -6
One conversation in this episode that has stuck with me is when Archer was telling the ferengi that thier greedy phylosophy about aquiring wealth at the expence and exploitation of others was much like earths in the past and almost destroyed humanity........which is the way it is now in the real world!
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Post by Atoz 77 on Jan 23, 2009 8:32:06 GMT -6
Yes. Star Trek has sometimes been criticized for advocating "Socialism" or something, but I really think that if we didn't have to spend so much of our time worrying about where our next paychecks were coming from, we'd be a whole lot better off.
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Post by andrewlee on Feb 4, 2009 20:48:14 GMT -6
Atoz. You have a good point about the idea of not having to be concerned about "The next pay check" and being a lot better off, but as long as their are a lot of greedy, selfish people, its not going to happen.
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Post by Atoz 77 on Feb 6, 2009 8:25:18 GMT -6
I don't knock the capitalistic system of the early twenty-first century, but in my opinion it had a few kinks. You had "movie stars" and "sports figures" who get paid millions of dollars (more than a reasonable person could spend in a lifetime I would think), while other people were out of work.
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Post by andrewlee on Feb 6, 2009 9:26:04 GMT -6
Atoz I'm not putting capitalism down, nor am I wanting socialism to a high degree. but I think some major reforms in some areas would make things better for most people. As far as professional athletes are concerned. They have a lot of fans. They, being paid too much in my opinion, isn't going to change much!
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Post by macawol on Feb 6, 2009 12:00:53 GMT -6
Ferengies are a ironic view of the typical capitalist, but star trek have often used them as a comic relief.
Yes, I am very much for a socialistic system, after all, have we not seen in the last hundred years the capitalistic system fail again and again? the crash in the 30's, the live-fast-&-die-yuppie in the 80's, and now yet another crash cause by typical capitalistic greed.
We simply can not better ourselves as a races as long as we have a economical system that is based on cheating others to feed your own egoistic greed.
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Post by andrewlee on Feb 6, 2009 13:35:22 GMT -6
Mac Awol You have valid points about the negatives of capitalism and the positives of socialism. I wonder if both systems can be successfully combined and balanced?? I agree totally with your statement about not being able to better ourselves when people are being cheated and exploited by the greedy! who are in control of the economic system and only care about themselves!
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Post by macawol on Feb 7, 2009 5:18:07 GMT -6
I have wondered that myself.
And I am no economical or socio-ecological expert, but perhaps a system where we look beyond a given countrys economical state and focus on the world as one economical entity.
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Post by Atoz 77 on Feb 9, 2009 9:08:50 GMT -6
That's very true.
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