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Post by andrewlee on May 10, 2009 15:32:32 GMT -6
I just watched and recorded a digitally remastered version of this episode. It was great except for a couple of scenes were deleted. There were a lot more views of the ships and the doomsday machine in action! There was even one scene when a very small asteroid bumped into and bounce off the hull of one of the ships causing no damage. It was tragic though about a whole crew dying on the 3rd planet of that star system that was under attack from that large robotic weapon as it sliced the planet up, the transporters went offline. Commodore Decker was devastated because he could not save his crew. This is why he took the shuttle craft into the doomsday weapon to destroy it from within. He didn't have enough power but to only slightly damage it. This giving Kirk the Idea of using Decker's wreaked Starship "Constellation" to self destruct from withing the weapon using the impulse engines as a fusion bomb which destroyed the inside of the Doomsday weapon leaving it's outer hull dead in space.
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Post by Atoz 77 on May 11, 2009 7:34:39 GMT -6
This was one of my favorite episodes. That ticking clock in the background as Kirk says, "Gentlemen, I suggest you beam me aboard!"
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Post by andrewlee on May 11, 2009 10:35:18 GMT -6
Atoz...Yes the ticking of the clock and things times so close!!! I have another thought about Dr McCoy and Commodore Decker and his unfitness for command. Couldn't Dr McCoy's medical tricorder readings of Decker been enough evidence to relieve him of command instead of a complete medical exam?
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Post by Atoz 77 on May 12, 2009 8:09:57 GMT -6
His tricorder readings would just have shown physical symptoms of stress, and that wouldn't have been enough to relieve him of duty. I doubt a full physical exam would have, either, to tell the truth. Technically, he'd have to classify his disagreement with Decker's decision as a difference of opinion.
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Post by andrewlee on May 12, 2009 9:48:17 GMT -6
I thought this may have been the case. Thanks for the clarification!
I have wondered about "Neutronium/Carbon neutronium" in Star Trek. It's supposed to bean extremely hard substance that is impervious to weapon's fire as in the case of the Doomsday weapons outer part being made of it. The phaser fire just bounced off. Since the device was vulnerable from inside, why not fire photon torpedoes into it's front opening to damage it? A matter-anti matter explosion would be far more powerful than a fusion bomb explosion!
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Post by Atoz 77 on May 15, 2009 7:40:07 GMT -6
Neutronium is collapsed matter. It's not just "extremely hard", it's the densest possible substance in the universe.
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Post by andrewlee on May 15, 2009 9:37:23 GMT -6
That's what I thought it was. Neutronium being dense collapsed matter, like from a neutron star or something like it. The Doomsday weapon being made out of neutronium would be very heavy due to it's mass. That would explain it's need to consume whole planets at a time because of the tremendous power requirements just to move it. Spock did say something about it using a total conversion drive for propulsion. It must have large energy capacitors inside of it to store the enormous amounts of energy to move between star systems. I wonder if it is capable of warp speed! I know it is capable of at least medium impulse, because the Enterprise had difficulty keeping away from it when it was pursuing them with their warp drive offline!
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Post by kijuro on May 15, 2009 9:58:35 GMT -6
There is a cool book, called "Vendetta" based on this episode.
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Post by andrewlee on May 15, 2009 10:19:15 GMT -6
Thanks Kijuro. I want to get and read this book! I wonder how they would deal with another of these doomsday weapons in the 24th century?
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Post by kijuro on May 15, 2009 12:26:25 GMT -6
This one takes place in the 24th century. Doomsday Machine vs. the Borg. Written before First Contact, so a bit of the info is wacky.
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Post by kijuro on May 15, 2009 12:27:01 GMT -6
Oh, and it makes it clear that the one from TOS was damaged. The one from the book is in pristine shape.
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Post by andrewlee on May 15, 2009 12:39:25 GMT -6
If the Doomsday weapon in the book is in pristine condition, I wonder how much more powerful it is than the one that was damaged? Kirk and Spock were discussing that there could be more of them out there some where wondering the universe.
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Post by kijuro on May 15, 2009 12:41:01 GMT -6
It can shoot anti-proton beams. Near the beginning it cuts through a Borg Cube like a hot knife through butter.
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Post by andrewlee on May 15, 2009 12:44:41 GMT -6
That does it! I'm going to order this book "Vendetta" from the book store very soon! I would love it if the all powerful Borg get reduced to rubble by a "Doomsday Machine"!!
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Post by kijuro on May 15, 2009 12:46:52 GMT -6
It's huge. It's subtitled "The Giant Novel"!
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