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Post by Atoz 77 on Jun 19, 2009 9:36:57 GMT -6
Atoz. I saw you have posted some more fan fiction, but didn't notice if this story was among them. No, the story I'm talking about isn't posted here. I could provide a link, though, if you really want to read it. My suggestion is that the time portal was originally designed for short trips into the past. But one of the side effects is that it caused a slight deterioration in the brain's synapses. If you stayed long enough, you'd start to become irrational, and finally die from a brain hemorrhage. When they decided to use it to evacuate, they came up with a way to strengthen the synapses, but at the cost of making it impossible to travel through a time portal twice.
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Post by andrewlee on Jun 19, 2009 11:16:21 GMT -6
It's been a long time since I have seen this episode. Thanks for the reminder Atoz.
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Post by Atoz 77 on Jun 22, 2009 7:34:33 GMT -6
There are so many other questions raised by this episode. How would you arrange an evacuation like that? Mr. Atoz said the destination was strictly up to the individual's choice, but wouldn't you have to make sure only a few people appeared in any one place in any one year? On the other hand, what if you put 1,000 people in, say, Ancient Egypt just before a famine? Or 10,000 people in Europe just as the Visigoths invaded? Would anybody notice? What if it turned out that Babylon (or Atlantis) was originally built by people sent back from the future? Talk about time paradoxes!
And if you had to evacuate that way, what year would you pick? Could you get used to an era with less technology? There was a program on PBS television some years ago (and on the BBC too, I think) called "1900 House". A family moved into a perfect reproduction of a house from the year 1900 and for a month (I think), they had to live exactly like a family in 1900 did. They had electric lights and running water, but no television, no radio, no Internet.
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Post by andrewlee on Jun 22, 2009 8:08:16 GMT -6
I have seen documentaries with people living in situations where they had only the technology from a particular time period before. They were interesting! It is an interesting question to decide who goes where in time. They all can't go to the same time period
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Post by Luke on Jun 24, 2009 10:19:40 GMT -6
Whatif the atavachron isnt a time machine atall? Mr. Atoz called the disks verasim tapes. what if it just scans you and copies your brain patterninto a kind of simulation? wouldnt it pretty much the same thing?
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Post by Atoz 77 on Jun 26, 2009 7:40:35 GMT -6
That's interesting. It could explain why Spock's phaser didn't work. If the Sarpeidonians didn't have phaser technology, the simulation wouldn't have known how to pattern it.
I agree that from the point of view of "the Present", it wouldn't have made a lot of difference, since all of those people are dead anyway, but I'd have to think that a Real life (even in a dead past) would be preferable to a Virtual life. No, I think I'll stick with the time travel hypothesis.
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Post by Luke on Jun 27, 2009 8:18:02 GMT -6
Its just I was taught at the academy that a good starfleet officer considers all alternatives!
If I had my choice I"d want to go all the way back to the golden age of Atlantis.
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Post by Atoz 77 on Jun 29, 2009 8:00:09 GMT -6
Right you are, commander. I wouldn't voluntarily live in the past, but if I had to, I probably chose the 19th century, because that was a time of major exploration on Earth. Speaking as an exobiologist, it would be cool to travel with Charles Darwin on HMS Beagle or to watch them debate the theory of evolution from the beginning.
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Post by Arkroyal on Jan 10, 2010 22:18:56 GMT -6
I've just seen the episode - thank you YouTube! - and it was quite captivating. Trouble I find with the going back thing is how will you know your life there won't suck big time - you could go back to the 60s for instance and find that you end up in a boring, dead-end job far from all the excitement or that your view is clouded by history and rose-tinted glasses and actually being in the middle of all the "action" is soul-destroying. Also, how did a race without space travel develop *time* travel? Maybe it was instead of but...well, it's very technologically advanced isn't it?
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Post by Atoz 77 on Jan 11, 2010 9:08:35 GMT -6
Good point, ArkRoyal. That's why I specified if you HAD to, which era would you pick.
You also raised a good point about their technology level. I once speculated that research into space travel was actually banned for some reason, maybe by the infamous Zor Khan. Perhaps Zarabeth was a rocket scientist, exhiled into the ice age for that very reason.
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Post by Arkroyal on Jan 11, 2010 22:01:06 GMT -6
Actually she stated she was exiled because one of her family was involved in a plot to assasinate Zor-khan and he took it out on all of them.
I also question that if Spock was 'regressing' to the Vulcan of that time, why was McCoy apparently not affected by the same thing? And why was it McCoy, not Spock who suffered from the cold? Spock's body temperature is higher but you see what that does to Klingons!
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Post by Luke on Jan 13, 2010 12:07:07 GMT -6
* Also, how did a race without space travel develop *time* travel? Maybe it was instead of but...well, it's very technologically advanced isn't it? * It might be a cultural thing. They could have interplanetary travel but never invented warp drive.
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Post by andrewlee on Jan 13, 2010 13:58:23 GMT -6
* Also, how did a race without space travel develop *time* travel? Maybe it was instead of but...well, it's very technologically advanced isn't it? * It might be a cultural thing. They could have interplanetary travel but never invented warp drive. About their developing interplanetary space travel is something they never mentioned that I have wondered about! They must have considered that sending people back to their own past could alter it.
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Post by Atoz 77 on Jan 15, 2010 8:36:09 GMT -6
Actually she stated she was exiled because one of her family was involved in a plot to assasinate Zor-khan and he took it out on all of them. Quite true. As I said, I believe the time portal was originally intended for short trips of less than an hour. If you're not "prepared", you begin to suffer hemorrhage in the blood vessels that feed the brain. I suppose Spock showed the symptoms first because his brain was more highly ordered than McCoys.
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Post by Atoz 77 on Jan 15, 2010 8:37:33 GMT -6
It might be a cultural thing. They could have interplanetary travel but never invented warp drive. That's possible. Humans seem to have this cultural imperative to explore, probably because we tend to breed so fast. Maybe the Sarpedonians didn't have that. They looked at the vast distance between the stars and figured it wasn't worth the effort.
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