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Post by Luke on Nov 3, 2010 12:25:32 GMT -6
I was going to start topics for eachTNG episode, but if it's just going to be me and Admiral Atoz, why bother? So, Admiral, let's start with "Encounter at Farpoint". What did you think of it?
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Post by Atoz 77 on Nov 5, 2010 7:53:19 GMT -6
You must always cultivate a positive attitude, commander.
I have to admit when I first saw "Encounter at Farpoint" I was comparing it with the original series and I didn't like it much. I kept counting the things that were wrong with it. These days, with a little more hindsight, I can see that it was actually a pretty good story. One thing that threw me was how formal the characters all were. But this was because they were just meeting each other for the first time.
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Post by Arkroyal on Nov 5, 2010 9:55:00 GMT -6
AHHAHAHA! I SEE YOUR PESSIMISM AND I EATS IT.
I found it quite strange because I was going backwards (and it looks quite odd to my 90s sensibilities!) when I saw "Encounter At Farpoint" for the first time because by then I'd already seen the later seasons of TNG. I quite liked seeing where they'd come from actually and "meeting" Tasha Yar properly.
One thing I did notice was Miles O'Brien at the con in red!
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Post by Atoz 77 on Nov 8, 2010 9:03:12 GMT -6
Laforge was a Command officer during the first season, too. And the first encounter with Q portrayed him as, quite frankly dangerous.
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Post by Luke on Nov 10, 2010 12:28:51 GMT -6
I think the whole first season was a little shaky. I mean the stories themselves weren't all that hot. But it did introduce the characters pretty well. I liked the way Riker found Data on the holodeck trying to whistle Pop Goes the WEasel! And at first glance Q was pretty exciting as an adversary. I admit I was disappointed later when he kept turning up and not doing a whole lot.
But the plot itself, with the space medusa trapped on the ground and his/her mate coming along later to rescue it? What did you think of that?
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Post by Atoz 77 on Nov 12, 2010 8:55:43 GMT -6
I think we talked about the space medusa before in one of our Exobiology topics, so I don't want to repeat myself there. It certainly was an unexpected twist when a spaceship turned out to be a living thing instead. The thing that annoys me is that both the medusae were apparently unable to communicate except by telepathy. This is only because I think that telepathy is an overdone plot device. But it did give Troi her chance to prove her worth, so that's okay.
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Post by Luke on Nov 13, 2010 8:54:55 GMT -6
That's true. There wer several epsiodes where Troi was the only one who could solve the problem because of her telepathy.
Moving right along then, what about the second episode, "THe Naked Now". Now this one was sort of based on a TOS eps "The Naked Time" but I thought the premise was a little silly. Everybody getting drunk basically. And how does Data get drunk?
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Post by Atoz 77 on Nov 15, 2010 8:57:49 GMT -6
I think they said something about his hydraulic system being semi-organic or something (I haven't seen this one in a long time), and it infiltrated his system that way. The part I really hated was how Wesley so easily took control of engineering and messed things up. But I don't know, it was interesting to see Picard and Beverly with their inhibitions released a little bit!
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Post by Luke on Nov 17, 2010 12:15:41 GMT -6
I think this is the one where Tasha expressed an interest in Data too, isn't it?
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Post by Arkroyal on Nov 22, 2010 15:49:29 GMT -6
A *very* strong interest. Maybe that's how he got infected?
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Post by Luke on Nov 24, 2010 12:17:50 GMT -6
I think it was. At least he didnt charge down the corridors chasing crewmen with a sword! Anybody know what the third episode of the first season was? "Code of Honor" wasn't it, where they were trying to pick up some kind of antidote from this planet and they abducted Tasha Yar? Is that the one?
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Post by Arkroyal on Nov 24, 2010 18:45:08 GMT -6
Yep, it was "Encounter at Farpoint", then "The Naked Now", then "Code of Honour". That was the where the women were actually the ones in charge despite appearances to the contrary? (Strikes like how ENT tried to show Orion women actually.)
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Post by Atoz 77 on Nov 29, 2010 8:25:43 GMT -6
Yes, the planet Ligon. That was confusing really. The men were apparently "in charge" because they actually gave the orders and ruled and what not, but at the same time actual ownership of property passed through the female line. It didn't make any sense to me. It was a very different culture which didn't necessarily make sense from our point of view -- exactly what you would expect to encounter on Star Trek every now and then.
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Post by Luke on Dec 1, 2010 11:36:09 GMT -6
There was a fight to the death in that one, too, between Tasha and the ruler's wife, and the whole point was that it was the only way the woman could get out of her marraige was to die. Now taht's odd because if the women realy did rule you'd think it would easier for women to divorce a man she didnt like than it would be for a man to divorce, wouldn't it?
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Post by kijuro on Dec 1, 2010 16:33:02 GMT -6
The director of that episode was fired for racism. The script did not specify that the planet was filled with negative black stereotypes. That episode is considered the worst of the first season, and of TNG in general by the cast.
Going back to the EaFP topic, it seems that space-borne lifeforms would only be able to communicate telepathically, or by radio waves or some similar phenomena.
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